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roland_l 28 ( +1 | -1 )
Aggressive Tactical/Open lines for Black vs. 1.d4 What do you think? I want to try to avoid slower positional games and learn more slashing tactical games.

How does black do this well against 1.d4 ??

I was thinking the Dutch ... but this is also a very positional game is it not?

Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
odonata 35 ( +1 | -1 )
Suggestion I also prefer open games, a good option against 1.d4 is the Budapest Gambit:
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5!
Check it out, it gives Black all the advantages of open play while White is stuck with a closed position...
cairo 31 ( +1 | -1 )
How about: 1. d4 b6 2. e4 Bb7 3. Bd3 f5 english defense with a lot of fun, but not for players with bad nerves :-))

Best wishes
Cairo
jstack 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Tactical chess I agree the budapest gambit is a good choice. But, don't rule out the dutch. It is true the stonewall variation is very positional. But, you can get good tactical games with the leningrad variation. In this variation black is aiming for an improved version of a Kings Indian defence and is often very tactical.
odonata 48 ( +1 | -1 )
Cairo's idea is indeed fun, I once tried it, but ended up with a severe headache ;-)) I think Budapest is relatively more solid (for rather mediocre players like me) with less surprises. But as always your opponent can avoid it by playing for example: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3... There I often struggle to get things open... Any suggestions to continue against that one are welcome to me as well!

With kind regards,
Odonata
schnarre 19 ( +1 | -1 )
Perhaps... Personnally I would essay 1...b5 by choice (I find it more "positional" than the Budapest) going for the throat immediately! If I'm feeling more conservative, a reversed Torre (1...d5, 2...Nf6, 3...Bg4) is a good choice!
ccmcacollister 31 ( +1 | -1 )
The Kurjatko Gambit ! ... }8-))
or
The King's Indian...usually gets very tactical, tho usually not a lot of open lines, and any you get tend to come later into the game, unless white agrees to opening some earlier. But for the Kurjatko and the Benko Gambit I find it hard to get open lines early vs d4, myself.
ccmcacollister 4 ( +1 | -1 )
OH ... ! I DO like the Albin-Counter Gambit a lot vs the QG
apastpawn 29 ( +1 | -1 )
No one mentioned the Benoni 1.d4 c5 or the Modern Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.?.....c5 Both are tactical openings which say from the start that black is a counter puncher.

Also the Scandinavian Gambit 1.d4 e5 2.dxe5 then with either Qxe5 or Nf6 both lead to an open aggressive game from both sides.
barryblue 12 ( +1 | -1 )
Suggestion I suggest the Grunfeld defence for active tactical play but like all openings tactics and strategy must be combined










schnarre 19 ( +1 | -1 )
True! You're right barryblue: all openings tactics & strategy must be combined!

Ah yes, the Albin Countergambit of fond memories! Definitely a gambiteer's weapon vs 1. d4, but requires a good deal of care to properly use/
tertsius 39 ( +1 | -1 )
Naivanidnacs Gambit What are those pesky Norsemen up to these days? Has Hagar the Horrible sold Helga's house to sac and terrorize the E pawn countryside? I haven't the latest MCO, Informator, Newinchess yearbook, but isn't the Scandinavian Opening (nee Gambit,) e4 d5 ed or has the DaVinci Code been broken?


_If Tony Miles can beat Karpov with a6 then this is surely the opening of the next chess age; man against machine!
ccmcacollister 58 ( +1 | -1 )
Absolutely SCHACHING !!! Hmmm, No one mentioned the Scandinavian Gambit?!
I wonder why !??
OR the King's Gambit Accepted Either! Yet Fischer claimed it almost a forced WIN for Black ! ... and I know it's a great line-opener too. Maybe it's been refuted ... if
I need to start defending vs d4 with the Scandi-Gambit, I'm not sure whether Black
should play the c2-c3 sac or the e2-e3 ...The former opens a nice line if White will cooperate with e5xc3 but what if he declines into the Panov-Botvinnik Defense ??! I feel a little shaky about this suggestion. Does anyone else sense a Checkmate in
the air ~? ..... [;-O
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juve_leo 10 ( +1 | -1 )
Try the Portuguese Variation I started studying the portuguese variation lately

It is one of the most aggresive lines to the Scandinavian

1.e4 d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4 Bg4
apastpawn 9 ( +1 | -1 )
Okay I was dyslexic. The 1.d4 e5 is the Eglund Gambit and not the Scandinavian. Plus the Eglund is not that sound of a gambit.


masros 8 ( +1 | -1 )
1.d4 f5 Dutch Defence..also great and agrresive.My favourite opening againts 1.d4.
trond 26 ( +1 | -1 )
The Von Hennig-Schara Gambit ... ... is my fathers favorite weapon against d4. He has good results with OTB even against players rated a few hundred points above him. You get a very open position and usually a lead in development as black.

The gambit goes as follows:
1. d4 d5
2. c4 e6
3. Nc3 c5
4. cxd5 cxd4?!
schnarre 7 ( +1 | -1 )
Has anyone essayed the Vulture lately? 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 Ne4 (not necessarily in that order)
tertsius 35 ( +1 | -1 )
All this is mere Carrion for White, these amateurish attempts by Black. Vultures, all this ichthyology is making me hungry. Cairo is half right; that would be an English hippopotamus, one of the most dangerous animals in the kingdom!
invincible1 93 ( +1 | -1 )
Leningrad Dutch!!!!!! I don't know what the Krujatko Gambit is!? And tertsius, come try your 1....e5 against me and you'll see why its refuted ;-).
I think the Dutch Stonewall can get difficult for black at times with the c8 bishop stuck there. However, the Leningrad Dutch is an excellent opening with real tactical possibilities! I started playing it after looking at cyrano playing it extensively. Since then I have had some good results and like it a lot now.
KID has of course produced thousands of excellent and highly tactical games; however, unfortunately the opening has been too well studied now :-(. (The same sad story as the Dragon Sicilian).
There is another Dutch variation that I don't know the name of. The setup is f5, d6 and e6 and then develop the bishop to e7. However, I have never tried this so cannot say for sure if it can get very tactical.
ccmcacollister 136 ( +1 | -1 )
Forgot to mention ... The Tarrasch or semi-Tarrasch to the QGD is active. I like the Grunfeld too, as barryblue suggested. Recently I tried out a gambit line for BL hoping to see a new WT improvement on move 14, but didnt get it :( Otherwise, I preferred the non-gambit lines for BL vs the Exchange Var., seeing the gambit lines as drawing tools. Or maybe I just dont play em that well. Alex Dunne did an analysis of the Grunfeld based on 6th or 7th USCCC games that I found very helpful in playing it. :)
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invincible1 the Kurjatko Gambit goes 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 b5 !?
I think its great, I just cant PLAY it. :) But chessnovice does play it well & has been playing it exclusively, taking either side, here at GK. I play it a lot in blitz and 10 minute games.
At least in the USA & MCO-12 that Dutch formation you referred to [f5,e6,d6] has been called the Modern Dutch. It's the line i got my draw with vs ICCF/GM Ian Brooks :))
back as tadpoles(Experts :), and it can get tactical. He had an interesting new Nb5 to try out. But BL played thru it okay so I'm not sure if it was an improvement or a TN. The mainline had a lot of draws from it anyway, tho I hesitate to call it "drawish" per se. Of course I haven't had one since 1980's, so . . . ?!
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tertsius Sounds like you've got a challenge ! You play 1...e5 now ?
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wolstoncroft1 117 ( +1 | -1 )
White plays d4 with the idea of creating a positional advantage. I recommend you play and learn these three defenses for black, nimzo indian, queens indian and bogo indian. They are all very similar and the concepts overlap between them so they will be easy to learn together. These three defenses are blacks best chance at leaving white equal after the opening. Those gambits, are a bad idea, they are only going to make you lose a lot of games. i recommend you just learn to get an even game out of the opening and then playing a middlegame where the better player will win or get a better endgame.
I do agree that opening up a posittion can be psycologically good if your opponent plays better in a more closed situation and is now uncomfortable. But I often find that forcing something so early in a opening can often leave weaknesses that will cause you to lose time and weaken your pawn structure. It is better to play Strong Lines that garuntee you equality,,,in my opinion.... so give them a look....if you need some resource suggestions to find it let me know...
giuco_piano_guy 6 ( +1 | -1 )
Queen's Indian 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 b6 4.g3 Bb7 5.Bg2 Be7 6.Nc3 Ne4!
This tends to lead to an exciting tactical game for me.
schnarre 48 ( +1 | -1 )
hmmmnnnn... nimzo-indian, queen's -indian, bogo-indian: nothing wrong at all with the first one; most queen's-indian games I've seen (a fair number) Black loses; bogo-indian--why isn't this just a variant of the nimzo (it would be easier to keep track ). I disagree with wolstoncroft 1 entirely that gambits just make one lose games (they cater well to slashing, aggressive play--which is what was requested).
ccmcacollister 46 ( +1 | -1 )
Queens Indian ... I dont like the QI lines myself, where BL lets WT play e4 for free ... without having to work or play e3 first. Rather seems to defeat the purpose of an opening focused upon that square. But I do like the lines that might be called a ....b6 Nimzo-Indian.
And we can add another to the similar systems ... The Dory Defense. Starts out similar then BL plays Ne4 and backs it up with f5. So some similarity to some Dutch as well I suppose.
schnarre 9 ( +1 | -1 )
The Dory Hmmnnnn....I hadn't heard of that one, but it sounds interesting. Thanks for the note ccmcacollister!
premium_steve 8 ( +1 | -1 )
Similar to Budapest... which I've enjoyed is it a decent idea to play a budapest with a fianchettoed king bishop?
ie) 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 e5
shrimper 41 ( +1 | -1 )
Budapest with g6... There seem to be a couple of drawbacks with this:

- A white has already played Nc3 Black doesn't have the option of playing Ne4 as in the Fajarowicz variation.

- After Ng4 Black often plays either one or both of Bb4 and Qe7. The former leaves the f6 and h6 squares weak and the latter invites Nd5 which, in conjunction with Bf4, could give White a dangerous attack on c7.

Out of interest, how do you usually proceed in this opening?
peppe_l 1 ( +1 | -1 )
What if 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 e5 4.dxe5 Ng4 5.Qd4
schnarre 5 ( +1 | -1 )
Hmmnnnn... Anyone essayed 1. d4 Nf6, 2. c4 e5, 3. dxe5 Ng4, with 4...b6 following?
premium_steve 75 ( +1 | -1 )
shrimper: i haven't tried the opening before, but i thought at first it would be best to develop the pieces as they are normally developed, except black's king bishop would be played to g7.
like you mentioned though, f6 is very weak and Bg5 becomes a good play for white if black develops the way i mentioned, where black has to sacrifice a pawn to save the trapped queen.
so i was thinking of maybe delaying the Bg7 move.... but i don't know. maybe sacrificing the pawn is the best of many poor options. :)

peppe: to me, that line seems great. i think black is screwed! :D
i was thinking... if 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 e5 4.dxe5 Ng4 5.Qd5, then 5...Nc6 6.Qxg4 Nb5 with a fork threat..... but in that case 7.Qe4 seems to defend nicely for white and he's just up a full piece.