Play chess online, chess puzzles, free online chess games, online games, chess teams, chess games, chess games database, chess clubs, chess league, free chess online, board games and more...

Tags: chess online, play chess online, online chess, online chess, play chess online, chess online, scrabble

Chess Forum
goclub.org   << - < - > - >>
FromMessage
Posted by jstevens1
goclub.org

1/05/2008
13:16:07

play online chess
Subject: In Old Matey's Shadow

Message:
It's a horrid, sinking feeling, your opponent is threatening mate and it seems you can do nothing about it other than resign or time out. Sometimes that is the case, other times there is a saving move. I have two games in the public annotations gallery called In Old Matey's Shadow Part I, in which I do resign due to unavoidable mate against a player called tomwhufc. I have a happier experience, however, against a fellow Sneaky Knights Team player called Yakky which ends in a perpetual - but this is no bore draw, it is a nailbiter, I have called this one In Old Matey's Shadow Part II.

It has been quite a while since I have posted on this forum.

Happy New Year to you all!

Bye for now.

Joanne


Posted by ccmcacollister
goclub.org

1/05/2008
16:09:34

play online chess
A clarification ...

Message:
Hi jstevens, great to see you posting again! I just want to add a clarification of your first sentence ... so newcomers to chess will know you are speaking in a literal sense that those two options exist (and of course a third, to move and get checkmated, perhaps with a nice congratulatory message if you want the game history to show what you said ... since your last "comment" will stay with the game.), rather than anyone uninitiated mistaking this as an encouragement of Time Out as an option.
So, while those are the true, ultimate choices in such situation I just want to point out that it is considered EXTREMELY Bad Chess Etiquette to Time-Out a correspondence Chess game when faced with mate in one. (Or an OTB game for that matter, unless it just happens that there truly is Not time to do otherwise). And is very likely to be considered as such, even if that was not one's intention.
Additionally, if a player's percentage of games lost by Time Out gets too high, or there are too many instances or occasions of Time Out, GK can and has in the past removed players from the site for that. However, IMO it is not something to worry about if you are playing in a usual manner and not incurring T/O's in a deliberate or extremely careless manner. Tho I cannot give you any particular # or % to go by.
Regards All, Craig A.C.


Posted by jstevens1
goclub.org

1/06/2008
14:37:26

play online chess
I don't like timing out either!

Message:
Hi Craig,

I put the timeout option in because in only my second game on Gameknot my opponent timed out on me in a lost position, this has stuck in my mind ever since. I was a whole queen up and my opponent would have had to have given up his last piece to delay copping Old Matey. He timed out on me. It was horrible having to wait 3 days for him to move. No I do not want to encourage this but these things do happen unfortunately and if you are on the end of a timeout you just have to sit back. I have learned how to use the Conditional Moves facility so if I know I have a forced sequence leading to mate I may set it up and issue my opponent with a Checkmate Advice in the Chat, specifying how many moves and providing analysis copied and pasted from Analyse the Board to demonstrate how the mate will be delivered. I can then sit back and at least think that the points are in the bag whatever my opponent does. I did not put this player on my ignore list but I will not go out of my way to challenge him again unless he comes up with a good reason for the timeout. That applies to everyone else by the way.

As a digression, I do admit to being guilty of late resignation at times but it has sometimes saved me a few points and half points by doing this. However, I do not wish to resign unless I am absolutely certain that I will be checkmated or lose heavy material. I would prefer to resign than be checkmated if I see it coming - if I don't and I cop it, I will have to bite the bullet (this has not happened to me on Gameknot yet touch wood!). At least Analyse the Board tells you whether a check is just a check or whether it is mate - very helpful. When I do resign I will always thank the player for challenging me and I will state in my resignation note whether it is on the grounds of unavoidable mate or ruinous loss of material and may provide analysis of why I will be checkmated or lose a lot of material. That way, I will make clear to my opponent and gameknot that I am not throwing the game to manipulate my rating - I do not believe in this! I will always say "Well Played" at the end because making a mistake is one thing, my opponent seeing it and taking full advantage is another, so I fully believe that my opponent has done well to take full advantage and to convert it into a won position.

I will do everything I can to avoid timing out and I usually make my moves quickly and ensure that my vacation flag is set up properly before I go away on holiday.

Anyway Craig, have you seen the games?

Cheers and bye for now.

Joanne


Posted by tim_b
goclub.org

1/07/2008
01:57:17

play online chess
Late resignations.

Message:
I think a late resignation is always better than a premature one. There have been a few times when I've quickly resigned in what seemed to be a hopeless position. But a fresh look at the game overnight and I find a possible escape, but too late!

BTW I've only had one opponent deliberately time out in a lost position, so when it does happen, I think it's just a rare bit of bad luck.


Posted by lighttotheright
goclub.org

1/07/2008
23:01:58

play online chess


Message:
I don't timeout. I noticed that some people keep playing as if I eventually will.

The polite thing to do is just resign. One time I resigned in a materially equal position; but it still was a lost game. I was playing someone above 2200; he knew he had me. But with a lesser player, I would have continued playing. I resigned quickly to start a new game with him without wasting either of our time. In the second game, I pulled out a draw.

That reminds me. I once was offered a draw and immediately accepted it without doing a complete analysis of the new position. After my move, it was a forced draw, so I thought it still was. Yet, he made a subtle mistake on the move when he offered me the draw. I didn't realize until after I accepted the draw that I really had a slight advantage in the game. It was not obvious; but it was there. I think that I might have been able to press the advantage for a win instead. It would not have been easy.

The point is that you need to do a complete analysis before you either resign or accept/offer a draw.

Playing some 2200+ players has taught me to not give up on a game so early. I've been beaten when I thought I could hold out for a draw. Sometimes it is not so easy. But then again, I haven't played people this good in quite a while. I used to get a way with many positions that I knew I should have paid dearly but did not!





Chess news:

The shock of the new -- There was another twist at the Grand Slam Final at Bilbao as the lead changed hands again and it was Magnus Carlsen, the 17 year old Norwegian chess prodigy who moved to the head of the field thanks to the scoring system that gives three points for a win. Carlsen defeated Levon Aronian who never recovered from the shock of an astonishing innovation he was confronted with on move 15 in the Slav Defence. The other two games were drawn but Topalov v Radjabov was very odd as they reached a Benoni type position and played cat and mouse until Topalov made the standard breakthrough in the centre. Black seemed to be in chess dire straits but a few moves ...

Barden on chess -- Bilbao's €400,000 (£317,000) Grand Slam, which ends today, is one of the strongest chess tournaments ever, with six elite chess grandmasters competing in a double round tournament. It has been staged alfresco in a special sound-proof glass enclosure erected in the city's main square, and it has already witnessed a historic moment. In round four, the world chess champion, Vishy Anand, lost the game below while Magnus Carlsen won. That meant that on the unofficial but widely respected daily chess rankings the Norwegian became world No1 at age 17, a feat which eclipses both Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov at his age. However, two late defeats meant that Carlsen's ...

Battery unpowered -- Ring ring knock over your king, that’s the rule nowadays in chess. If a mobile phone sounds the owner loses immediately and it was Nigel Short’s turn to be a victim of this when his phone sounded during his game against former British Ladies Chess Champion Ketevan Arakhamia-Grant in the second round of the EU Chess Championship underway at Liverpool’s World Museum. Short had recently changed his phone and had switched it off but was undone when the device ran low on power and gave out a fatal warning. There was another telephonic tragedy a few days ago in round six of the Russian High Chess League as Vladimir Malakhov the number one seed was defaulted in ...