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Posted by nathanman22 goclub.org 1/23/2008 07:19:51 Play online chess	Subject: Experiences with the 4 Queen Game Message: gameknot.com I lost this amazing match--and hats off to my opponent who played it well. The main purpose of this thread is to discuss the strategy and tactics behind games involving 4 queens. I know that this doesn't happen very often. In this game, my opponent had the distinct advantage in the fact that he made his 2nd queen first and had the checking momentum which he was able to use to pin me against one of his pawns and put me in checkmate. Anyone else want to share stories and games that involve 4 queens as well as how these games should be played, feel free to post here. -Nathanman22
Posted by ionadowman goclub.org 1/23/2008 14:01:31 Play online chess	Not a common sight... Message: ... Interesting Q+P endgame, but I suspect had Black realised soon enough that the 4Q ending was going to lose so quickly for him (he needed to evaluate this at the beginning of the pawn footrace), he might have tried another line! Here's an amazing "might-have-been" from Kotov-Matanovic, 1952. w Kotov played 1.Rf8! and won quickly after 1...Ra7? But had Black played the better 1...Rbg7 this would have happened: 2.Rd1 a2 3.e7 (the pawn is taboo) 3...a1=Q 4.e8=Q Qaa2 5.Rd8 Qab3 6.a8 Qba2 - White is winning here, and can win in two ways. The first is carnage: [1] 7.Rxg8+ Qxg8 8.Qxg8+ Rxg8 9.Rxg8+ Qxg8 10.Qxg8+ Kxg8 11.f4 with a winning pawn ending; or (better) [2] 7.Rxg8+ Qxg8 8.Qxa2 or 7...Rxg8 8.Qe5# When multiple queens appear, it is usually a quick end for someone! Cheers, Ion
Posted by heinzkat goclub.org 1/23/2008 14:17:12 Play online chess	Capablanca - Alekhine, 1927 Message: Another example of a game that ended quickly after the two pawns both promoted. See puzzle #1939. Black to move after last moves 64. a7 d1=Q 65. a8=Q...
Posted by ionadowman goclub.org 1/23/2008 20:42:48 Play online chess	I won't quote the moves... Message: ... just suggest that Black mates in 3 (no, I didn't look it up!). Cheers, Ion
Posted by far1ey goclub.org 1/23/2008 21:17:52 Play online chess	Message: I believe there is a good fischer game - from his book 60 memorable games. I'm not quite sure but I think I saw it the other day I was surfing around www.chessgames.com ... Just my 2 cents...
Posted by chessnovice goclub.org 1/23/2008 21:32:50 Play online chess	Mate in 5... Message: ...if you do it wrong. ;)
Posted by bonsai goclub.org 1/28/2008 11:46:59 Play online chess	Message: I had the following in a game when 40.Qg3 a1Q 41.Qxg5+ Kf8 42.Qg7+ Ke8 43.Qg8+ Kd7 44.Qxf7+ Kc8 45.Qe8+ Kc7 46.f7 Qc5 47.f8Q lead to a quick draw with 47...Qcg1+ 48.Kh3 Qh1+ ½-½ I guess the problem with a lot of these positions is that in the endgame kings are usually quite open and thus the result is often either a quick perpetual or a mate. In my example my king was at least sufficiently shelterd on h2 so that I had the time to get some threats of my own (and hence my opponent had to force the draw).
Posted by ionadowman goclub.org 1/28/2008 13:16:28 Play online chess	Probably the most common occurence... Message: ... is that a pair of queens gets exchanged off almost at once. In the bonsai game, White was threatening mate on the move (48.Qd8#) but also to exchange a pair of queens off quickly, leading to a decisive endgame advantage. Could White's king have escaped the checks by advancing (e.g. 49.Kg4 Qd1+ etc)? Probably wise to let it go...
Posted by ccmcacollister goclub.org 1/30/2008 02:10:03 Play online chess	far1ey ... Message: Good find! I was looking for a Fischer game myself for this and could not remember the opponent. But your link is just givng me the search page, without going to the game. Can you tell us the player names. (that site sometimes does that, I dont know why. It may be after a certain time elapses but cannot swear to it.)
Posted by far1ey goclub.org 1/30/2008 03:42:56 Play online chess	Message: Sorry - I didnt give the game link above but this is the proper link: www.chessgames.com Fischer - Petrosian and although it ended in a draw - it seems one of the weirdest/most complicated games I've seen. Maybe I should consider purchasing Fischer's 60 memorable games....
Chess news: Jon Ludvig Hammer follows in Magnus Carlsen's footsteps as Norway gains in power -- A world-class chess talent can often spark others in his or her country to raise their sights. This happened in England in the 1970s, and now Norway, formerly a chess backwater, is experiencing a boom due to Magnus Carlsen's exploits. The Norwegian government has just announced that it will give $12m (Â£7.5m) backing to the Arctic town Tromso to stage the 2014 world team Olympiad. Carlsen's first prize in the London Classic was matched in the open chess event by his countryman, Jon Ludvig Hammer, also a 19-year-old, who led all the way from a strong field. And England's No 2 woman Jovanka Houska, whose tied second was a career-best result, now lives in Norway. The game ... Victory Caps Breakout Year for a Player From Brooklyn -- In most chess games between top players, victory is usually determined by a few minor errors by one of them. Blowouts are rare. That was not the case at the 93rd Marshall Chess Club Championship, which ended last weekend. The chess club, on West 10th Street in Manhattan, is one of the oldest and, based on its membership, strongest in the country. The club is named after Frank J. Marshall, the United States champion from 1909 to 1936. Marshall was a swashbuckling player, and he would have appreciated many of the games at this yearâ€™s tournament. The field included eight grandmasters and three international masters. The runaway winner was Alex Lenderman ... Chess notes -- The month of December has produced considerable drama and new champions for chess archives. First, the 128-player World Chess Cup field was, after knockout play, finally reduced to Ruslan Ponomariov of Ukraine and Boris Gelfand of Israel (formerly of Belarus), both of whom had survived six rounds. The subsequent struggle between Gelfand and Ponomariov was a real nail-biter. They drew their first four games at normal time controls. The rapids also produced a tied score. Play then moved on to Blitz, a full game in five minutes for each player. Here, both competitors played queen side openings, but Gelfand excelled, winning the first game by trapping Ponomariovâ€™s queen, resigning ...