chessnovice
54 ( +1 | -1 )

Analysis help? Anyone care to help me in analysis in a recent game I played against Chessmaster? It is the first time I have not lost to him - a draw.

White: Chessmaster 9000

Black: chessnovice

1. d4 Nf6

2. c4 b5

3. cxb5 Bb7

4. Nf3 e6

5. e3 c5

6. Bd3 d5

7. O-O Nbd7

8. b3 Bd6

9. Ba3 Rc8

10. Nbd2 O-O

11. Rc1 Qa5

12. Nb1 Qd8

13. Nc3 Qe7

14. Re1 Rfd8

15. Bc2 Re8

16. Na4 Ne4

17. Bxe4 dxe4

18. Ne5 Bxe5

19. dxe5 Nxe5

20. Nxc5 Nd3

21. Nxd3 Qxa3

22. Ne5 Rxc1

23. Qxc1 Qa5

24. Rd1 Bd5

25. a4 Bxb3

26. Rd4 Bd5

27. Nc6 Qc7

28. Rd1 a6

29. Nb4 Qxc1

30. Rxc1 axb5

31. axb5 f5

32. Kf1 Rb8

33. Nxd5 exd5

34. Rc5 Kf7

35. Rxd5 Ke6

36. Rc5 g6

37. Rc7 Rxb5

38. Rxh7 Rb1+

39. Ke2 Rb2+

40. Ke1 Rb1+

41. Ke2 Rb2+

42. Ke1 Rb1+

43. Ke2

1/2 - 1/2

Thank you in advance for any comments. :)

Cheers

Analysis help? Anyone care to help me in analysis in a recent game I played against Chessmaster? It is the first time I have not lost to him - a draw.

White: Chessmaster 9000

Black: chessnovice

1. d4 Nf6

2. c4 b5

3. cxb5 Bb7

4. Nf3 e6

5. e3 c5

6. Bd3 d5

7. O-O Nbd7

8. b3 Bd6

9. Ba3 Rc8

10. Nbd2 O-O

11. Rc1 Qa5

12. Nb1 Qd8

13. Nc3 Qe7

14. Re1 Rfd8

15. Bc2 Re8

16. Na4 Ne4

17. Bxe4 dxe4

18. Ne5 Bxe5

19. dxe5 Nxe5

20. Nxc5 Nd3

21. Nxd3 Qxa3

22. Ne5 Rxc1

23. Qxc1 Qa5

24. Rd1 Bd5

25. a4 Bxb3

26. Rd4 Bd5

27. Nc6 Qc7

28. Rd1 a6

29. Nb4 Qxc1

30. Rxc1 axb5

31. axb5 f5

32. Kf1 Rb8

33. Nxd5 exd5

34. Rc5 Kf7

35. Rxd5 Ke6

36. Rc5 g6

37. Rc7 Rxb5

38. Rxh7 Rb1+

39. Ke2 Rb2+

40. Ke1 Rb1+

41. Ke2 Rb2+

42. Ke1 Rb1+

43. Ke2

1/2 - 1/2

Thank you in advance for any comments. :)

Cheers

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mormel12
18 ( +1 | -1 )

if you ask for analyzes about games played here, it's always helpfull to name the boardnumber.

much easier for the ones doing the job to go through.

i'm not much of an analyzer myself, sorry.

greetings

if you ask for analyzes about games played here, it's always helpfull to name the boardnumber.

much easier for the ones doing the job to go through.

i'm not much of an analyzer myself, sorry.

greetings

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aqeel
6 ( +1 | -1 )

Its better to use Winboard or something to copy and paste this notation!

Its better to use Winboard or something to copy and paste this notation!

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badhorse
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Look at bottom of page Look at the bottom of this page. It tells you how to create a link to a board number or to a player profile.

Look at bottom of page Look at the bottom of this page. It tells you how to create a link to a board number or to a player profile.

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tulkos
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I don't think he can link to a board number, since this game was probably not played on gameknot.

I don't think he can link to a board number, since this game was probably not played on gameknot.

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divine_sun_cat
52 ( +1 | -1 )

fritz 7

[Fritz 7 (10s)]

Fritz didn't have much to say i'm afraid. (superscript 2 is +/=)

A50: Queen's Fianchetto Defence (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 b6) 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 b5 3.cxb5² Bb7 4.Nf3 e6 5.e3 c5 6.Bd3 d5 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.b3 Bd6 9.Ba3 Rc8 10.Nbd2 0-0 11.Rc1 Qa5 12.Nb1 Qd8 13.Nc3 Qe7 14.Re1 Rfd8 15.Bc2 Re8 16.Na4 Ne4 [16...cxd4 17.Bxd6 Qxd6 18.exd4²] 17.Bxe4± dxe4 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.dxe5 Nxe5 20.Nxc5 [Worse is 20.Bxc5 Qg5 21.Rf1 Nd3µ] 20...Nd3 [20...Red8!? 21.Qe2 Rd5²] 21.Nxd3± Qxa3 22.Ne5 Rxc1 23.Qxc1 Qa5 24.Rd1 Bd5 25.a4 Bxb3 26.Rd4 Bd5 [Not 26...Bxa4 27.Qa1 Qxb5 28.Qxa4 Qxa4 29.Rxa4+-] 27.Nc6 Qc7 28.Rd1 a6 29.Nb4 Qxc1 30.Rxc1 axb5 31.axb5 f5 32.Kf1 [32.h3!?±;

0.34 Fritz 7: 32.h3 Rb8 33.Rc5 Kf7 34.Kh2 g5 35.Nxd5 exd5 36.Rxd5 Ke6 37.Rc5 h5 38.f3 exf3 39.gxf3 0.72/13] 32...Rb8= 33.Nxd5 exd5 34.Rc5 Kf7 35.Rxd5 Ke6 36.Rc5 g6 37.Rc7 Rxb5 38.Rxh7 Rb1+ 39.Ke2 Rb2+ 40.Ke1 Rb1+ 41.Ke2 Rb2+ 42.Ke1 Rb1+ 43.Ke2 1/2-1/2

fritz 7

[Fritz 7 (10s)]

Fritz didn't have much to say i'm afraid. (superscript 2 is +/=)

A50: Queen's Fianchetto Defence (1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 b6) 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 b5 3.cxb5² Bb7 4.Nf3 e6 5.e3 c5 6.Bd3 d5 7.0-0 Nbd7 8.b3 Bd6 9.Ba3 Rc8 10.Nbd2 0-0 11.Rc1 Qa5 12.Nb1 Qd8 13.Nc3 Qe7 14.Re1 Rfd8 15.Bc2 Re8 16.Na4 Ne4 [16...cxd4 17.Bxd6 Qxd6 18.exd4²] 17.Bxe4± dxe4 18.Ne5 Bxe5 19.dxe5 Nxe5 20.Nxc5 [Worse is 20.Bxc5 Qg5 21.Rf1 Nd3µ] 20...Nd3 [20...Red8!? 21.Qe2 Rd5²] 21.Nxd3± Qxa3 22.Ne5 Rxc1 23.Qxc1 Qa5 24.Rd1 Bd5 25.a4 Bxb3 26.Rd4 Bd5 [Not 26...Bxa4 27.Qa1 Qxb5 28.Qxa4 Qxa4 29.Rxa4+-] 27.Nc6 Qc7 28.Rd1 a6 29.Nb4 Qxc1 30.Rxc1 axb5 31.axb5 f5 32.Kf1 [32.h3!?±;

0.34 Fritz 7: 32.h3 Rb8 33.Rc5 Kf7 34.Kh2 g5 35.Nxd5 exd5 36.Rxd5 Ke6 37.Rc5 h5 38.f3 exf3 39.gxf3 0.72/13] 32...Rb8= 33.Nxd5 exd5 34.Rc5 Kf7 35.Rxd5 Ke6 36.Rc5 g6 37.Rc7 Rxb5 38.Rxh7 Rb1+ 39.Ke2 Rb2+ 40.Ke1 Rb1+ 41.Ke2 Rb2+ 42.Ke1 Rb1+ 43.Ke2 1/2-1/2

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mormel12
6 ( +1 | -1 )

sorry chessmaster is a program:) i didn't notice at first.

greetings

sorry chessmaster is a program:) i didn't notice at first.

greetings

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caldazar
271 ( +1 | -1 )

Interesting game In the future, chessnovice, I'd highly recommend doing your own analysis first and posting it here before soliciting advice. You get more out of the experience if you do your own work first. Besides, you have to anyway; you can't trust analysis you don't check yourself since it could easily be incorrect.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b5 3. cxb5 Bb7

Or 3... a6.

4. Nf3

I greatly prefer 4. f3 intending an e4-pawn thrust.

4... e6 5. e3

This just looks wrong. 5. Bg5 to undermine Black's control of e4.

5... c5 6. Bd3

or 6. Nc3, exterting influence over e4 and intending to meet ...cxd4 with Nxd4.

6... d5

Well, this strongly holds up an e4-pawn thrust, I suppose. After 6... cxd4, White can simply give back the pawn with 7. O-O dxe3 8. Bxe3. However, perhaps now was the time for 6... a6 since 7. bxa6 Nxa6 is quite pleasant for Black (7. O-O is probably better).

7. O-O Nbd7 8. b3 Bd6 9. Ba3

Trying to dominate c5, but I have to wonder how realistic a plan this actually is.

9... Rc8 10. Nbd2 O-O 11. Rc1 Qa5

11... Qb6 looks to me to do something similar...

12. Nb1 Qd8

...and the queen on a5 was not particularly well placed in any case.

13. Nc3 Qe7

I suppose Black should be entertainig possible ...e5 ideas at some point, but things like Bf5 can be potentially annoying in that case.

14. Re1 Rfd8

14... Ne4 was worth looking at, although Black probably doesn't have enough. 15. Bxe4 dxe4 16. Nd2 Qh4 17. h3 cxd4 18. Bxd6 dxc3 19. Nc4 Rfd8 20. Qd4 and White's position looks pretty good to me.

15. Bc2

If White is serious about this, 15... Bb1 is probably better. Neither bishop moves seems to address the needs of the position though. I felt 15. Qc2 was called for despite possible discomfort down the c-file.

15... Re8

This feels like some sort of passing move to me, as I can't see what the rook is doing on e8 (trying to support ...e5? then why not play 14... Rfe8 instead?).

Without the rook on f8 (and with the d8-rook eyeing up the White queen, no less), a potential White capture by Bxd6 loses some sting so now 15... Ne4 is more interesting. 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Nd2 Qh4 18. h3 cxd4 19. Bxd6 dxc3 20. Nc4 is now inadequate due 20... Nc5 (intending ...Nd3). Therefore, White probably has to meet 15... Ne4 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Nd2 Qh4 with 19. g3, seriously weakening the light squares around his king, although White does have Nf1 to defend and Black's e4 pawn impedes the light-squared bishop from joining the attack and exploiting those weak squares.

Honestly, even after quite a bit of my own analysis (about an hour's worth), I'm still not sure what the verdict should be on 14... Ne4 (it seems inadequate to me) and 15... Ne4 (seems playable). Two positions that are probably worth a bit of study.

There's much more to look at in the following moves (skimming the rest of the game score, I saw points where there might be improvements for one side or the other) but somebody else can look at those. I thought White had some reasonable winning chances.

Interesting game In the future, chessnovice, I'd highly recommend doing your own analysis first and posting it here before soliciting advice. You get more out of the experience if you do your own work first. Besides, you have to anyway; you can't trust analysis you don't check yourself since it could easily be incorrect.

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b5 3. cxb5 Bb7

Or 3... a6.

4. Nf3

I greatly prefer 4. f3 intending an e4-pawn thrust.

4... e6 5. e3

This just looks wrong. 5. Bg5 to undermine Black's control of e4.

5... c5 6. Bd3

or 6. Nc3, exterting influence over e4 and intending to meet ...cxd4 with Nxd4.

6... d5

Well, this strongly holds up an e4-pawn thrust, I suppose. After 6... cxd4, White can simply give back the pawn with 7. O-O dxe3 8. Bxe3. However, perhaps now was the time for 6... a6 since 7. bxa6 Nxa6 is quite pleasant for Black (7. O-O is probably better).

7. O-O Nbd7 8. b3 Bd6 9. Ba3

Trying to dominate c5, but I have to wonder how realistic a plan this actually is.

9... Rc8 10. Nbd2 O-O 11. Rc1 Qa5

11... Qb6 looks to me to do something similar...

12. Nb1 Qd8

...and the queen on a5 was not particularly well placed in any case.

13. Nc3 Qe7

I suppose Black should be entertainig possible ...e5 ideas at some point, but things like Bf5 can be potentially annoying in that case.

14. Re1 Rfd8

14... Ne4 was worth looking at, although Black probably doesn't have enough. 15. Bxe4 dxe4 16. Nd2 Qh4 17. h3 cxd4 18. Bxd6 dxc3 19. Nc4 Rfd8 20. Qd4 and White's position looks pretty good to me.

15. Bc2

If White is serious about this, 15... Bb1 is probably better. Neither bishop moves seems to address the needs of the position though. I felt 15. Qc2 was called for despite possible discomfort down the c-file.

15... Re8

This feels like some sort of passing move to me, as I can't see what the rook is doing on e8 (trying to support ...e5? then why not play 14... Rfe8 instead?).

Without the rook on f8 (and with the d8-rook eyeing up the White queen, no less), a potential White capture by Bxd6 loses some sting so now 15... Ne4 is more interesting. 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Nd2 Qh4 18. h3 cxd4 19. Bxd6 dxc3 20. Nc4 is now inadequate due 20... Nc5 (intending ...Nd3). Therefore, White probably has to meet 15... Ne4 16. Bxe4 dxe4 17. Nd2 Qh4 with 19. g3, seriously weakening the light squares around his king, although White does have Nf1 to defend and Black's e4 pawn impedes the light-squared bishop from joining the attack and exploiting those weak squares.

Honestly, even after quite a bit of my own analysis (about an hour's worth), I'm still not sure what the verdict should be on 14... Ne4 (it seems inadequate to me) and 15... Ne4 (seems playable). Two positions that are probably worth a bit of study.

There's much more to look at in the following moves (skimming the rest of the game score, I saw points where there might be improvements for one side or the other) but somebody else can look at those. I thought White had some reasonable winning chances.