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gibo 54 ( +1 | -1 )
playing against the london system i like to play queens and nimzo indian positions against 1.d4, but i find playing this against the london system is very difficult. Often white will get a wel established knight at e5, if you take it he will grab the f file with good attacking chances, if you dont he can easily develop on the kingside, and any work black does on the queenside is always to slow. For people playing queens indian positions to the london system, how do you play it? Should i perhaps play d6 insted of d5, but then white can get a big centre with e4 d4 and f4?
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wadvana 8 ( +1 | -1 )
London System? i dont think white plays f4 in this system.
anaxagoras 82 ( +1 | -1 )
Black's play on the queenside may be slow, but it is probably what's indicated by the positions that result from the opening. Remember that good play from Black needn't be directed at the White King, and if you can gain space on the queenside then you should grab as much as you can. I have little respect for opening 'systems' and regard them all with a healthy air of contempt. I try to meet the white pawn on d4 with the pawn chain e6, d5 and then c5 (in one move) in order to put immediate pressure on the center, since White makes little effort to gain space or control the center in the initial part of the opening.

Lastly, I'm not sure if it's necessary to play such a sophisticated defence as the nimzo or QI against the London system. Better to bludgeon White in the center and make him regret his timid opening.
halfpast_yellow 9 ( +1 | -1 )
Anaxagoras Happy to play a London against you whenever you have a free game avaliable.
baseline 31 ( +1 | -1 )

Jaffe,C - Janowski,D [D02]
New York1718 m New York (15), 1917

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.Bf4 Bb7 4.Nbd2 e6 5.e3 Be7 6.Bd3 d5 7.Ne5 0-0 8.Bg3 c5 9.c3 Nbd7 10.f4 Ne4 11.Qf3 f5 12.0-0-0 c4 13.Bc2 b5 14.Be1 Nxe5 15.fxe5 Qa5 16.Kb1 b4 17.Nxe4 dxe4 18.Qe2 Bd5 19.cxb4 Bxb4 20.Bxb4 Qxb4 21.Qd2 a5 22.a3 Qb6 23.Qc3 Rab8 24.Rhf1 Rf7 25.Rd2 Rfb7 26.Bd1 Qc7 27.g3 Rb3 28.Bxb3 Rxb3 29.Qc1 Rxe3 30.Rc2 Rd3 31.Rd1 Qb6 32.Rxd3 cxd3 33.Rc8+ Kf7 34.Qd1 Kg6 35.g4 h6 36.gxf5+ exf5 37.Qg1+ Kh7 38.Qf2 Be6 39.Rc3 a4 40.Kc1 Qd8 41.h4 Qd5 42.Kd2 g5 43.hxg5 hxg5 44.Rc5 Qb3 45.Ke1 Kg6 46.Rc7 Qa2 47.Qd2 f4 48.Kf1 Qb3 49.Rc3 Qd5 50.Rc7 Bh3+ 51.Kg1 Qxd4+ 52.Kh2 Qe3 53.Rc6+ Kh5 54.Qxe3 fxe3 55.Kxh3 e2 0-1

baseline 31 ( +1 | -1 )

Marshall,F - Reti,R [A47]
Marienbad Marienbad (15), 1925

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.Bf4 Bb7 4.Nbd2 e6 5.e3 Be7 6.Bd3 Nh5 7.Bg3 d6 8.Qe2 Nd7 9.0-0-0 Nxg3 10.hxg3 g6 11.Rh3 Kf8 12.Rdh1 Kg8 13.Nh4 Bf6 14.Ne4 Bxe4 15.Bxe4 d5 16.Bd3 c5 17.c3 cxd4 18.exd4 g5 19.Nf3 g4 20.Rxh7 gxf3 21.gxf3 Rxh7 22.Bxh7+ Kf8 23.f4 Bg7 24.Bc2 Qc7 25.Kb1 b5 26.Qxb5 Rb8 27.Qa6 Nb6 28.Qa3+ Qe7 29.Qxe7+ Kxe7 30.Kc1 Nc4 31.b3 Nd6 32.Kd2 Rc8 33.Bd3 Rc6 34.Rc1 f5 35.Ke3 a6 36.c4 Nb5 37.Rh1 Bxd4+ 38.Kf3 dxc4 39.bxc4 Na3 40.Rh6 Rc5 41.Rh7+ Kd6 42.Ra7 Rc6 43.c5+ Bxc5 44.Rxa6 Rxa6 45.Bxa6 Nb1 46.g4 fxg4+ 47.Kxg4 Bxf2 48.f5 e5 49.f6 Bc5 50.Kf5 Nd2 51.Bb7 Bd4 52.a4 Nb3 53.Be4 Nc5 54.Bc2 Nd7 55.a5 Bc5 56.a6 Nf8 57.Bb3 Ba7 58.Ba2 Nd7 59.Bb1 Nc5 60.Be4 Bb8 61.Kg6 Nd7 62.Bf5 1/2-1/2

baseline 31 ( +1 | -1 )

Kmoch,H - Gruenfeld,E [A47]
Debrecen Debrecen, 1925

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 b6 3.Bf4 Bb7 4.e3 e6 5.Nbd2 Be7 6.Bd3 c5 7.Qe2 d6 8.c3 Nbd7 9.h3 a6 10.0-0 d5 11.Ne5 0-0 12.Bh2 Ne4 13.Nxd7 Qxd7 14.Bxe4 dxe4 15.Nc4 Qc6 16.Ne5 Qe8 17.dxc5 bxc5 18.Rfd1 f6 19.Nd7 Rf7 20.Rd2 Rd8 21.Rad1 Bc6 22.Nb6 Bb5 23.c4 Bc6 24.Bc7 Rxd2 25.Qxd2 Bf8 26.Bd8 f5 27.Qa5 Ra7 28.Rd2 h6 29.Qc3 e5 30.a3 f4 31.b4 cxb4 32.axb4 a5 33.bxa5 Bc5 34.Kh2 Rf7 35.Nc8 Bd7 36.Nd6 Bxd6 37.Rxd6 Qxd8 38.Qxe5 fxe3 39.fxe3 Qc7 40.a6 Rf5 41.Qd4 Ra5 42.Kg1 Bc6 43.Rxc6 Qxc6 44.Qd8+ Kh7 45.Qxa5 Qxc4 46.a7 Qc1+ 47.Kh2 Qxe3 48.Qf5+ 1-0

baseline 22 ( +1 | -1 )

Petrosian,T - Reshevsky,S [A47]
Lugano ol (Men) Lugano, 1968

1.Nf3 Nf6 2.d4 e6 3.Bf4 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Bd3 Be7 6.Nbd2 Nh5 7.Bg3 Nxg3 8.hxg3 h6 9.Qe2 c5 10.c3 Nc6 11.g4 Qc7 12.a3 d5 13.g5 0-0-0 14.gxh6 Rxh6 15.Rxh6 gxh6 16.Ba6 f5 17.g3 c4 18.Bxb7+ Kxb7 19.Ng1 Bd6 20.Qh5 Qg7 21.Ne2 Ne7 22.Nf4 Bxf4 23.exf4 Ng8 24.Qf3 Kc7 25.0-0-0 Nf6 26.Qe2 Kd7 27.Rh1 Ng4 28.Nf3 Re8 29.Kd2 Rb8 30.Ke1 b5 31.Kf1 a5 32.Kg2 a4 33.Ne5+ Nxe5 34.Qxe5 Qxe5 35.fxe5 Rh8 36.f3 Ke7 37.g4 fxg4 38.fxg4 Rg8 39.Kh3 Rf8 40.Kg3 Rh8 41.Kh4 Rg8 42.Rf1 1-0

baseline 31 ( +1 | -1 )

Rohde,M (2575) - De Firmian,N (2545) [A47]
World op Philadelphia (9), 1993

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bf4 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Bd3 Be7 6.Nbd2 Nh5 7.Bg3 d6 8.Qe2 Nd7 9.Rd1 Nxg3 10.hxg3 c5 11.c3 Qc7 12.e4 h6 13.a3 g6 14.Nc4 b5 15.Ne3 a6 16.g4 Bf6 17.Bb1 cxd4 18.cxd4 Qb6 19.Qd2 Bg7 20.0-0 Nf6 21.e5 Nd5 22.Rfe1 0-0 23.g5 h5 24.Be4 dxe5 25.dxe5 Rfd8 26.Nxd5 Bxd5 27.Qe2 Bxe4 28.Qxe4 Rac8 29.Rc1 Bf8 30.Rc2 b4 31.axb4 Rxc2 32.Qxc2 Qxb4 33.Re4 Qb6 34.Re3 Bc5 35.Re2 Rc8 36.Kh2 Kg7 37.Qc1 Rb8 38.Qc2 Qa7 39.Qd2 Rb4 40.Qc2 a5 41.Kg1 Qb6 42.Qc3 Rb3 43.Qc4 a4 44.Ne1 Rb4 45.Qc2 Be7 46.Nf3 Rb3 47.Rd2 Bc5 48.Kh2 Qb5 49.Kg1 Qb6 50.Kh2 h4 51.Nxh4 Qb8 52.Qe4 Be7 53.Nf3 Rxb2 54.Rxb2 Qxb2 55.Qxa4 Qxf2 56.Qf4 Bd8 57.Kh3 Bb6 58.Kh2 Kg8 59.Qf6 1/2-1/2

baseline 31 ( +1 | -1 )

johnkato (2345) - chesstimate (1735)
9th GK tournament, 15.11.2002

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bf4 b6 4.e3 Bb7 5.Nbd2 Be7 6.Bd3 d5 7.c3 Nbd7 8.Ne5 Nxe5 9.Bxe5 Bd6 10.f4 Qe7 11.0-0 0-0-0 12.a4 Ne8 13.a5 f6 14.axb6 axb6 15.Ra7 Bc6 16.Qa1 Kd7 17.b4 fxe5 18.b5 Bb7 19.fxe5 Qg5 20.Rf4 Bc8 21.c4 Rf8 22.Nf3 Qh6 23.exd6 Nxd6 24.c5 bxc5 25.dxc5 Rxf4 26.exf4 Ne4 27.Qe5 Ke8 28.Qxc7 1-0

baseline 6 ( +1 | -1 )
a few games you might find useful, good luck!