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brobishkin 7 ( +1 | -1 )
Tactics... What is the rarest tactic scene in your chess games...

premium_steve 35 ( +1 | -1 )
i rarely see queen sacrifices. most players like their queens for some reason, i guess ;). i rarely see peace sacrifices either, especially in the opening, but i have been introduced to the halloween gambit here by luciogerbaldi (sp?) and then i learned more from keiserpaul. the opening looks pretty dangerous for both sides, but it's really fun.
brobishkin 42 ( +1 | -1 )
Steve... Thanks for the reply... Just for the record, the tactics I was mentioning and am now clarifying is tactical combinations everyone... I for one have rarely seen (yes I did use the wrong word in the last thread) a windmill here at gameknot (though I have come close in a few of my games)... Queen sacrafices are rare also, especially for a win... But I have seen a few Queen sacrafices here, from me and others I've played against... But still have yet to see a windmill...

poisonedpawn78 16 ( +1 | -1 )
windmill ...... This is a game i have on the go in which i used a discovered windmill .

board #771495
rc_onroad 3 ( +1 | -1 )
ok... ...i'll ask, what's a windmill?
furryfunbundle 15 ( +1 | -1 )
and again... I will second RC_ONROAD's query :-)

Windmill - what is it and is it a recent nomenclature or has it been doing the rounds since early times?

macheide 76 ( +1 | -1 )
rc_onroad & furryfunbundle Dear fellows,

"Windmill" is the name of a family of combinations, a kind of battery between a rook and a bishop, for example, the rook gives a check, protected by the bishop forcing the king to move to the bishop's line of fire, then the rook takes a piece giving a discovered check with the bishop,..., and so on.

The theme is very old, but the name and the most famos "Windmill" in Chess history cames from the game Torre-Lasker, Moscow, 1925. Carlos Torre, compatriot of mine, in the day of his 21st birthday, defeated the colossal ex-world champion Emmanuel Lasker with a fantastic "Windmill". In his epoch, it was named "Torre's Windmill", in spanish language countries it is named "El Molino de Torre" o "La Lanzadera".

Best wishes,

brobishkin 42 ( +1 | -1 )
Thank you... Macheide is correct... It's a rare tactical combination which consists of a series of discovered checks, followed by a normal check, followed by a discovered check, and so forth... It ends only when the attacker has no more material to munch on from the situation... The mixture of checks and dicovered checks, and captures usually leaves your opponent paralized... He is being eaten alive, and there's nothing he can do about it...

brobishkin 47 ( +1 | -1 )
Poisoned pawn... Though you came close once again (just like me) to having a windmill... You actually only had a discovered check on board #771495... If you could have followed your dicovered check with a normal check, then you would have had a windmill in the making... But your opponents Queen pervented you from doing such... But she did pay a price for doing so... Excellent play there and a keen eye...

But I am still searching for a windmill tactic I'm afraid...

honololou 4 ( +1 | -1 )
how about underpromotion? That is a pretty rare bird.
cairo 42 ( +1 | -1 )
Should we say 9 out 10 times you would promote your pawn to a King.
I once in a OTB-game promoted a pawn to a Knight, in order to see if I could checkmate my opponent, with only Knight and Bishop and believe me I did checkmate him :-))

Actually I have seen games were an underpromotion, would lead to a checkmate within 3-4 moves.

Best wishes
clemens 15 ( +1 | -1 )
I though it was considered rude to underpromote without good reason? It seems to tell your opponent, "look, you're so pathetic, I can underpromote and still win...."
cairo 55 ( +1 | -1 )
I would under normal circumstances give you right clemens, but as you can see in this example, since I had the possibility to promote to a Knight and still mate him, he only had his King left and I must admit, that I was frustrated over he didn't resigned, which I think was rude. That was the reason I did it, but I suppose you could say, it is still rude by me to do it and I have to live with that.

Best wishes
clemens 33 ( +1 | -1 )
I see, it is somehow understandable if your opponent refused to resign. Even though we all know that two wrongs do not make a right, I know what it means to be angry, and we are all only human... :)

BTW, I find it impressive that you mated him with only a knight and a bishop, even more so in an OTB game.... I could never do that!
macheide 20 ( +1 | -1 )
honololou Dear driend,

A agree with you. Underpromotions are more tipical in studies or artistical compositions. When it's the best move in a real game is a very "rara avis".


cairo 67 ( +1 | -1 )
We all have a lot to learn everyday, but practising can do a lot to help. Don't say clemens that you never could mate with Knight and Bishop against a lonely King, you can if your practising. In Denmark in schoolchess, we have some examens for promote to: Bronzeknight, Silverknight and Goldknight, in order to achieve the Bronzeknight you shall mate your opponent with Knight and Bishop, in any given position within 50 moves and it is amasing to see how realatively easy, these kids on 10 years do this- practising-practising :-))

Best wishes
clemens 30 ( +1 | -1 )
You are right, practise is the key to success, of course. However, I've never regarded this particular endgame as especially important or frequent, and therefore I have never studied it. Also, since I hardly ever play OTB chess, I could still study it as soon as I need it in a game here on GK!